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Guys, does the last version of RitzDVB (0.8.1.3 updated by 0.8.3.4) support Windows Vista ?? if not, then when will it support ?? or what version will support this Windows ??
Thanks!

[herby]

All RitzDVB versions does support Vista...
BUT NOT ALL DVB-CARD DRIVER DOES !!!!

The generally rule is simple:
As you know the dvbcore RitzDVB use needs old wdm drivers.
So it depend if these old drivers are still running correct under vista.Or if manufacturer will adapt their old driver model

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Part I - Check if your card is supported under Vista32
at the moment under vista32:

- The old wdm drivers from Nexus,TT-Premium,SS1 do NOT work under vista because of the "Virtual DVB-S/-C/-T Network Adapter" can not installed correctly under Vista (blue screen crashing os)
- The old wdm drivers from TT-Nova do NOT work because the Network device can not installed correctly
- The old wdm drivers from the Pinnacle PCTVSat does WORK (Tested myself)
- The old wdm drivers from Twinhan 1020/1030/102g does WORK (Tested and reported by users at the dvbn forum
- Missing results for the SS2-DVB-S (maybe a friendly ss2 user can try and reply)

If anyone have differ results or found out some solutions please feel free to posts any results in the forum. So we can keep this list up to date - thx

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Part II - When your card is supported then follow this way

• Extract the RitzDVB-Package into a separated folder directly in root eg: c:\RitzDVB\
  
• Make a bat file, write into it: regsvr32 c:\ritzdvb\dvbcore.dll
  
• Save it
  
• Right Click the bat-file you made and choose "Run as Administrator"

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Part III - Configure the RitzDVB as used
The rest is as used and described in Manual

- That's all


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So it is still the same story as it ever was:
RitzDVB base on a old dvbcore with old api(s). So it does only support what still work by the same methods.
This of course exludes new dvb-drivers when they change their API. But if the API is still the same you can use it.
Please check this topic why RitzDVB can not use newer drivers and why RitzDVB never will implement new drivers http://www.ritzdvb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=239

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Alternative Softwares you can use under Vista:
- For the Nexus,TT-Premium,SS1 you can use ProgDVB (it does not require the "Virtual DVB-S/-C/-T Network Adapter" installed)
- For the Nova you can use ProgDVB,MyTheatre,... (but you must use the BDA drivers)


BTW: We are only speaking about 32bit vista
Generally I do not recommend 64bit and dvbcards ATM (never mind the dvbsoftware) because of the wide lack of missing drivers. But if you must play with it I think best chances you'll have with newer cards and bda drivers running other dvbsoftware.
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current RitzDVB version 0.9.1.6
My config: Core2Duo 6700, 2GB DDR667, Intel DP965LT, Radeon 4850, XP-SP2, DVB: Nexus-2.1 + Pinnacle PCTVSAT, SAT:ASTRA
>>pc-config in your signature will help other to answer your questions<<
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[herby]

As you seen above the way to register the dvbcore.dll under Vista is different as it was under XP/W2K.
This is because of the UserAccountControl (UAC) which is normally activated by default under Vista.

By registering DLL's in Vista with activated UAC Keep in mind
1. That you must run the registering bat with administrator rights (right click "run as administrator")
2. The file which you want to register with the regsvr32 MUST have the FULL PATH and NAME!
When you try it as it was under XP with "regsvr32 dvbcore.dll" (note the missing path) it will NOT find the dll. (even its in same directory)
3. Another important thing is that graphs now will only work from that RitzDVB.exe where you registered its dvbcore.
Means RitzDVB.exe started from another Path as the dvbcore is registered the graphs will not work. This is because RitzDVB by startup can not re-register a dll on the fly cause of the missing administrator rights. ...Of course alternative you can run such RitzDVB.exe from different places by giving additional administrator-right (right click run as administrator)
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current RitzDVB version 0.9.1.6
My config: Core2Duo 6700, 2GB DDR667, Intel DP965LT, Radeon 4850, XP-SP2, DVB: Nexus-2.1 + Pinnacle PCTVSAT, SAT:ASTRA
>>pc-config in your signature will help other to answer your questions<<
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[herby]

As you seen above my recommendation for the RitzDVB location is a place in root (eg: c:\RitzDVB\)
This is also because of the UserAccountControl (UAC) which is normally activated by default under Vista.

Keep in mind that folders like the Programs- or the Windows- folder (and a lot of other) are under control of the UAC.
So don't get me wrong: of course you can run and install ritzdvb under vista into any place without problems. ...but with UAC activated you just have to understand some things

as example, see what will happen when an application runs from a protected folder (as eg the Programs folder is) under Vista with activated UAC:
- With activated UAC eg. the program folder (and all its subdirectories!) are write-protected.
So if an application wants to write into its own folder windows simply maps that place without the program itself will mention that.
Now if the application create or edit eg. its own settings.ini file (or any other file which normally goes into the application path), UAC maps this into a place \All Users\Application Data\blahblah\
- This simply means: You'll will see no such configuration files in the programm folder. ...because the current settings.ini you'll find in the mapped path.
This can call more confusion when you have an old settings.ini in the program folder which comes from the base installation. Now there is a unused zombie-settings.ini in the program folder and the used one is in the mapped folder. Especially by beginners this can call lot more of confusion

BTW: In each protected folder you'll see a button at the top bar of the explorer window which brings you directly in a fast way to the mapped folder.
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current RitzDVB version 0.9.1.6
My config: Core2Duo 6700, 2GB DDR667, Intel DP965LT, Radeon 4850, XP-SP2, DVB: Nexus-2.1 + Pinnacle PCTVSAT, SAT:ASTRA
>>pc-config in your signature will help other to answer your questions<<
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[herby]

This new UAC technique can call some confusion by beginners or for ppl who do not understand.
I read lot of hints from these ppl who tried install RitzDVB on Vista to deactivate UAC. But as you see above there is absolutely no need for deactivating this feature!
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current RitzDVB version 0.9.1.6
My config: Core2Duo 6700, 2GB DDR667, Intel DP965LT, Radeon 4850, XP-SP2, DVB: Nexus-2.1 + Pinnacle PCTVSAT, SAT:ASTRA
>>pc-config in your signature will help other to answer your questions<<
Please respect our board-Rules